Blue Jays 5, Braves 4, Zuckerberg $

So in 1966 most of the games were on Facebook, but there was only one computer powerful enough to receive it, an Al Gore homebrew deal, and he was really short of friends back then.

So if you wanted to know about the Braves’ 72nd and 73rd game, you had to toddle down to Atlanta Stadium for a doubleheader against the Dodgers, who pitched two guys named Don.  The Braves swept, with Ken Johnson beating Sutton 5-4 and Tony Cloninger beating Drysdale, who was having his only really bad year in MLB, 4-3.

In the first game, Ken Johnson hit a homer off Sutton (Torre hit his 16th as well) and in the nightcap, Cloninger had a two-out two run single off Ron Perranoski.  (His big game is next week.)  But I want to  talk a little about Chi-Chi Olivo who got his 6th save in the second game.  Chi-Chi Olivo was a legend in Dominican baseball (he and his brother are still first and second alltime in wins in the Dominican league), but the Braves kept him in their farm system forever.  While no one is quite certain how old he was, by 1966 he was 39 or so and had had only one season up to 1966 as a regular.  1966 was his best, and last, year in the majors and this game was his next-to-last major league save.  He was sent down at the end of July and said to the press: “They say I come back.  But I no come back.”  (This is my retirement slogan, BTW.) But he was wrong.  He was called up the last week of the season and got a win in the last game of 1966.

So the 2018 game was on Facebook Live.  I assiduously avoid knowing anything about the finances of baseball.  I don’t care what anyone is paid.  I don’t care whether teams make or lose money.  I have no interest in John Malone’s tax minimization strategies.  It is my 35 years as a professional economist that allows me to treat baseball as a game, not a business.  So I’m sure it makes sense to someone to put this game on FB, and I’m sure there’s some sort of monetary theory behind it.  Leave me out of it.  I managed to cast it to my screen – all I need to know.

My wife thought DeRosa was handsome when he played for the Braves (she also favors Swanson over Culberson, but I don’t have the heart to tell her she misidentifies them about half the time) but I remember him as the QB at Penn during a period in which the Quakers were killing my Bulldogs, so I hate him.  I have no real problem with the loose-limbed commentary those guys do.

Then they played baseball.  A two-run dinger from Kendrys Morales was balanced by solo shots from Suzuki and Bourjos (!).  Remember that there once a time in which it was thought problematic that Bourjos was being blocked by some guy Trout.

But then the Jays got a couple more off Anibal and then Minter Grybo’d Carle for a run.  Meanwhile JA Happ had settled down and came out to get the complete game. One out singles from FF and Neck at least brought the tying run to the plate and sent Happ to the showers.  Suzuki hits a smash single scoring Freddie and now it’s interesting.  Folk Hero Culberson struck out, tarnishing his status, leaving it up to Ender.  Ender gets an infield hit to make it 5-4.  But Camargo flies out on the first pitch to centerfield to end it.

There are worse things than series splits on the road.  There are worse things than games on FB.  There are worse announcers than DeRosa and Arencibia.  There aren’t much worse things than the Orioles.  Go get ‘em.

Author: JonathanF

Alive since 1956. Braves fan since 1966. The first ten years were pretty much wasted. Exiled to Yankees/Mets territory in 1974 --- bearable only with TBS followed by MLB.TV.

36 thoughts on “Blue Jays 5, Braves 4, Zuckerberg $”

  1. thanks to Jonathan F and krussell for removing the mask of blindness…BTW who’s this fellow Cliff who apparently owns the loss?

    Great recap.

  2. Great recap, one correction if I may: the title says Orioles rather than Blue Jays. Series against the O’s starts Friday.

  3. Rain earlier tonight in DC delayed end of Nats vs O’s past midnight. Most satisfactory ending, O’s win 3/0.

    Harper 0 for 4. Heading for Mendoza. Discount to 265/10.

  4. To be fair, if Harper were to have a really bad walk year, he would probably just sign a short term deal or a deal with its opt outs structured differently. Hie wouldn’t let his AAV over the next 10 years take a hit like that.

  5. @8…Rob

    I see your point re structuring a deal in the short rather than the long term in those circumstances.
    Why though when you talk about him having a bad year did you choose walks as the criteria? Surely it’s his hitting that currently defines him?
    Last night, in the bottom of the ninth and down three, he hit a rocket straight to the first baseman. Their booth commented, ‘that’s the hardest Bryce has hit a ball in the last two weeks.’

  6. Jonathan F

    Lovely story about Chi Chi Olivo who would otherwise have never existed for most of us. Thanks.

  7. “Walk year” means the final year of a player’s contract. As in, he walks away after the deal is up.

    He’s going to get a lot more than $265 million in his coming deal.

  8. As ever, the education is appreciated. Is the opt-out always bi-lateral?

    And…we need to get Freddie going…has looked bad lately, that strike out in particular was spectacular, for the pitcher.

  9. @15

    Wasn’t there a moment in time in the Alex Rodriguez saga with either Texas or the Yankees where the team did have such an opt-out and stupidly chose not to exercise it?

  10. Based on reported signings, the Braves are currently sitting with almost $900K in overslot money to be able to spend, and that’s without Stewart having signed yet, which I expect to free up another $500K, at least. Unsigned guys include:

    *the aforementioned Stewart;
    *Tristan Beck (whom I expect to require over $500K of that overslot money);
    *AJ Graffanino (no idea what to expect relative to slot, but should be signing soon after having been eliminated in Omaha);
    *Ryan Shetter (no idea what to expect relative to slot, still playing in Omaha);
    *Nick Kingham (likely to require overslot money, though not sure how much, should be signing soon after having been eliminated in Omaha);
    *Victor Vodnik (likely to require overslot money); and
    *Zack Hess (would definitely require lots of overslot money and has always seemed unlikely to sign, although the Braves were said to have some optimism, and he hasn’t totally shot anything down yet…).

    Will be interesting to see how it goes.

    Link with the math:

  11. @10, blazon – that’s what I had heard or mis-heard according to Sam who said he called Culberson “the connector” meaning building the bridge between latin and american players. Or something like that.

  12. It was in reference to the question, “What was your most underrated acquisition.” Thoppy was referring to Culberson and his time in LA as a “connector” between American and Latin players. A real “clubhouse guy” who I guess speaks fluent Spanish?

    It should be noted that Thoppy didn’t answer the question with Culberson, it was suggested by one of the announcers that it would be Fake Dansby and AA ran with it.

  13. As far as what I think the most “underrated acquisition” would be, I’d go with one of the pitchers: McCarthy or Sanchez (though probably McCarthy because he’s been a mainstay in the rotation while Anibal has missed time due to injury). Or you could go with Carle in the bullpen.

    Seems there should be a power rankings for “underrated acquisitions.” I’d be curious to know who the highest rated underrated acquisition would be.


    1) Carle (That’s too easy)
    2) Culberson
    3) Anibal
    4) Flaherty
    5) McCarthy
    6) Tucker
    7) Moylan
    8) Bourjos
    9) Ravin (he deserves better)

  15. Our muscled hamster
    is not be discarded at the local dampster
    when others mock his tendency to swing at high pitches
    we say he’s ours not yours so cry, bitches.

  16. Stu, are there any particular guys (other than Stewart) who you’re particularly hoping they’ll go overslot on, especially HS guys with college commits?

    I have to admit I assume they’d have an inside track on Graffanino because the Braves drafted his dad, but I have no actual idea.

  17. @18…Stu

    awesome math from another Overlord…

    says Ryan Shetter
    my girl friend is so beautiful, just try an’ forget her
    just as for my wayward slider
    I do everything in my power to hurry, hide her.

  18. @14 or maybe we could trade for Happ so Freddie won’t have to face him again. Happ pitched one of the best games against us yesterday of any pitcher this year.

  19. 21—Well, they only took five (5) high-schoolers, Stewart included, in the entire draft, and only two of those, Stewart included, are signable. They’ll have to go over slot to sign Vodnik, and I’m sure they’ll get it done.

    (The other three high-schoolers were the guys they took in the final three rounds. The first two of those were never going to be signed away from school, and the third is Ed Mangan’s son, who’s done playing baseball.)

    Other overslot guys are definitely Beck, definitely Hess, and probably Kingham. They’ll get Beck and Kingham signed; I remain skeptical that Hess leaves LSU yet.

    Regarding Graffanino, they’ll get him (and all top-10-round picks) signed, I just don’t know whether they’ll be saving or spending slot money in doing so.

  20. The most curious signing bonus they’ve handed out was to 37th-rounder Alex Camacho. As a college senior, he has no leverage. Based on his profile, he was lucky to even be drafted. The Braves gave every other college senior they drafted a $10K bonus.

    They evidently gave Camacho a $100K bonus. I have no idea why.

    I tweeted at Callis and Mayo to get their thoughts, but they haven’t responded. My guess is that the intern entering those numbers for the Draft Tracker just fat-fingered an extra zero, but if there’s a different story, I’d love to hear it.

  21. UPDATE: Callis messaged me that Camacho is actually a redshirt junior, so he did have that magical year of leverage to warrant the extra $90K.

  22. Well, sure, there’s obviously something they like about him. But there’s typically not a lot separating a college player taken in the 37th round with hundreds of other college players not drafted. The fact that he had another year of eligibility explains why he got paid.

  23. SunTrust parking question – what lots are open at 3pm when the Chop House gate opens for certain summer Th/F/Sat game dates (like tomorrow)? The official site makes it look like none open before 5:30 on weeknights, which seems like a problem for those who want to arrive at 3.

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