plaisir d’amour…BRAVES 4 DODGERS 3


Plaisir d’amour ne dure qu’un moment.                                                                nana mouskouri
chagrin d’amour dure toute la vie.


so we remember the awful losses, they endure…victory, if gained, is fleeting…in baseball as in love, surely?

not tonight, Josephine…something must wash that taste away, in this instance we care not for how long.




another botched relay, is it nerves?  or Karma?                                                     DODGERS 1-0

2/0 count, Jason rolls over…Darling speaks up for us on close calls..


Freddie splitsville…DP…2 singles...Greinke flies out CF

OSB, my man, l/off single..Mac advances him.. CJ  K..  F***ing lovely Andrelton OF Dbl…past Puig!!          1-1


Minor location problems..great DPlay!!  Andrelton, 10 yrs, $165 M, backloaded…Frank called me

good line from Darling on Pitcher’s BP – HR contest with no Home Runs..we go meekly


AGon l/off single..Puig K.. out of trouble..LaSorda lovely reaction to 53 years in not 63..enjoyed by all

Freddie, l/off double, smashed..Gattis fails, Mac too…CJ !! something else!! Our first series lead                 BRAVES 2-1


Good news –   Much Minor’s best, no messing..Bobby Cox angelic as usual…

Minor unlucky, Puig hauls in his line drive..Greinke lovely s/out curve freezes Jason


Ramirez 1 out double…great strike out of AGon..Puig infield hit..Fabulous escape under pressure by MM..

Justin continues to disappoint, FF battles and grounds out..1,2.3 we need more runs, too tight as it is..


L/off single..Minor out, too soon? Who’s as good? Greinke also out..Ayala in..horrible play at first on

grounder, 1st and 3rd  , Ayala leaves..we’re in trouble..Avilan against top of order..DP! BRILLIANT!

WOW!!   now Withrow on, who he,rubbish??  Mac walks, BJ PR!! bold..CJ! br bat single…no steal from BJ..

AS great bunt..2nd and 3rd, 1 out…squeeze..please! poor old EJ, what a goat..feel sorry for him..K..LHP coming

in for Constanza(Rodriguez)…i am quietly, its Reed! they’ll walk him..Jason, your moment..loaded..2 out

FANTASTIC JASON, 2 run single… Belisario loads the bases..Howell pitching..FF grounds out.                     BRAVES 4-1


Carpenter walks lead off hitter, Ramirez 2 run homer…hanging curve, no outs.. Agon K’s..Puig K’s..much drama..

Kimbrel in for a 4 out save…(good recovery by Carpenter, high heat)..Uribe grounds out..                                 BRAVES 4-3

Wilson on to pitch…Laird/BJ/CJ i,2,3…BJ did make some contact though!


Kimbrel back, 3 more needed…Schumaker, K…Ellis WALKS..Ethier PHits, Gordon PR… LAIRD !!!!

C/S…we may have got a break on the call…great pick up and tag AS.. Kimbrel plays with fire, another walk..

Crawford ..2/2…  DEO GRATIA.. KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK                                                                                        BRAVES WIN 4-3


so love has triumphed, it will endure at least ’till we get to L.A…

celebrate with your beloved and sing-a-long  here

Andrelton extended through 2040, Frank called again.

Laird statue under consideration.


325 thoughts on “plaisir d’amour…BRAVES 4 DODGERS 3”

  1. Sorta JC’ed –

    Great win. For the record, I am no Fredi hater, but my god that sequence between he and Mattingly in the 7th was just some of the worst managing ever.

  2. That got more interesting than I would have preferred, but it was nothing to have an exciting game start to finish for once.

  3. Guys on ESPN and MLB so desperately want LA to win. Some clown on MLB thinks LA will close us out and score a “ton” of runs in LA. Someone should let Teheran hear that over and over.

  4. I just want to say Mike Minor turned in an ace performance considering the situation. He is as cool as ice after the first double play. Great job Mike!!!

  5. I’m not typically a media conspiracy theorist, but it definitely seems like the announcers are rooting against Atlanta. And if I see Uggla after another time Johnson does something bad, I’m going to throw something at the TV. WE GET IT! THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY OVER THE ROSTER! YOU’VE MADE YOUR POINT!

    Go Barves.

  6. If we beat Ryu, we force them to pitch Kershaw in game four and we avid Nolasco. I like our chances in that scenario. I think we can Ryu

  7. I think the wilting flower image should be replaced by this .GIF of Dee Gordon’s reaction to being caught stealing:

  8. #7

    Thanks for that. Now someone should send it to Mitch Williams, et al. who begrudgingly acknowledge a Braves victory tonight.

  9. In the time it took you to read this post, Kimbrel just struck out the side.

    Kimbrel's 9th inning fastballs in order: 98, 99, 98, 99, 99, 100, 99, 99, 98, 100, 99, 100, 100, 99, 100, 100, 98. #yesidid #heat— Andy Odenbach (@THEEODENBACH) October 5, 2013

  10. @7, I watched the replay on Taco Mac’s projector about 10 times. Gordon was safe. I’m OK with this. Updated W.M.B.P.L.A.Y. odds:

    3:1 Dead Man Walking
    4:1 The Clincher
    4:1 The Ambush
    25:1 The Gut-Shot
    40:1 The Umpire
    20:1 That Which Dare Not Speak Its Name

    (If I ever write these odds to turn out as a Dutch book, keep in mind I’m a guy who likes drinking beer and watching the Braves, not a professional oddsmaker.)

  11. @14 I get the feeling that “the Clincher” is the most likely outcome at this point, at least more so than “the Ambush”.

  12. Gordon was totally safe, and we’re owed it, so I don’t give a crap.

    Kimbrel had too many Red Bulls.

  13. @15, peak Ambush was in the aftermath of last night, when they looked completely flat and like a candidate to get swept in three. Good rebound tonight; most of that credit belongs to Minor for being a stopper when we needed one.

  14. I thought he was clearly safe at first, but after about the tenth reply changed my mind. The glove appears to make contact with Gordon at the same time as it catches the ball. Out.

  15. @19 REASON made him look out by letting ball come to him and keeping ball low as he tagged him. Since their is no butt cam, call stands.

  16. @21 No doubt that call only happens, regardless if it was correct or not, because Simmons is awesome. He did so many little things there to make that play what it was.

    Edit: @22 Thank you. Looks definitive.

  17. Gordon was out.
    Minor was incredible.
    I’m not sure my heart can take another game like this.

  18. “You guys know I love what Hanley is doing. You also know that I believe a HR that doesn’t tie, or put U ahead… Kills rallys”

    They needed three runs, but Ramirez only hit a two-run home run. Talk about coming up short when it matters most.


  19. Just got home from the Ted – my impressions:
    – The most impressive player in the ballpark tonight was Hanley Ramirez. That dude looked like he could do no wrong.
    – I have never, in over 30 years of attending Braves games, have heard a home crowd as electrified as this one was on the big plays. The noise on Heyward’s single, the Dee Gordon caught stealing, Kimbrel’s final out – absolutely deafening.

    Just a great night to have been at the ballpark.

  20. Our usual five-game series script:

    Game 1: a convincing loss
    Game 2: a close win
    Game 3,4: win one of two
    Game 5: a convincing loss

    Let’s hope we win game 3 and 4 this time…just to shut up the entire national media.

  21. We’ve got a better offense than these guys. None of our pitchers is in the class of Kershaw or Greinke. And we still hung a loss on Greinke.

    I think we can beat Ryu. If we beat Ryu, what does LA do? Kershaw threw like 130 pitches, are you really going to bring him back on short rest?

    We beat Greinke. We can beat Ryu, and we can beat Nolasco.

  22. I started following the Braves regularly in 2005, and both years they made the postseason (2005, 2010) it was:

    Game 1: lose
    Game 2: win
    Game 3: lose
    Game 4: lose

    Hoping it’s different this time.

  23. BJ’s at bat was frustrating as usual,but maybe even worse than normal. He took several good swings and worked the count to 3-2. I almost had a glimmer of hope that he would walk or get a hit. Then he does his “wind up” swing and it’s all she wrote.

    How long can we put up with him or Uggla if they play like this next year? My guess is we’ll end up eating most of these guys’ salaries for several years to come. Right now paying them to play for another team seems like a better idea than having them play for us.

  24. Definitely the loudest I’ve heard the Ted this evening, and that’s despite the absolutely atrocious “DJ” Dan trying to kill the crowd.

  25. Pedro is fat as hell these days, but the chin fuzz and greased curls are awesome as always.

  26. @34 There is a chance that Uggla can adjust to his eye surgery. I expect nothing in a trade for him now.

  27. Andrelton Simmons is unbelievable. He’s good in ways that I didn’t even know existed until he does something to demonstrate how much better he is than others. That simultaneous catch and tag while his foot blocked the bag was just another example.

  28. I had a lot of fun watching this game. I was going to a show (friend’s BD), so I basically hung back at the bar we went to prior to the show to see the 8th and 9th. Totally worth it.

    I do have to say, the managerial choices in that game was beyond questionable. I won’t get into Mattingly beyond saying YOU DON’T WALK JOSE CONSTANZA TO PITCH TO JASON HEYWARD I DON’T CARE WHICH LIMB YOUR PITCHER THROWS WITH.

    For Fredi, it’s a bit more complicated. He basically decided to have Carpenter pitch to the the Dodger’s 3 best hitters (and Mark Ellis), and after that stretch was done (with no one on and Carpenter actually looking really good), he decided to bring in Kimbrel in a situation he’d used him in exactly twice the entire season prior. And this to pitch to Juan Uribe?

    Look, if Carpenter can face Adrian Gonzalez and co, he can face Juan Uribe. If you intend to do something weird with Kimbrel, how about using him to go for the best hitters in the Dodger lineup rather than the worst? It just…. I don’t know. It made no sense to me. Either bring Kimbrel in earlier to pitch to frickin Hanley Ramirez.

    But whatever. It worked out. And you know what? Even when it was a one-run game, I wasn’t really that worried. Even with Puig up there. I thought Carpenter would get it done. Go Braves!

  29. @40. I believe Fredi did that once…walking someone weaker to get to CarGo so he can get the lefty-lefty matchup…at coors…

  30. Fredi sac bunted to set up second and third with Elliot Johnson and Constanza coming up. I was yelling at the tv but I guess he didn’t hear me. Then Mattingly called Fredi’s stupid and raised him by twice when he walked the bases loaded to get to Heyward. That was a gift. It was awesome to see us take advantage. Probably one of the worst managed half-innings of all time.

  31. Yeah, you definitely don’t sac bunt to set up second and third with Elliot. You do that to set up Uggla. Duh.

  32. I don’t think Fredi wanted Kimbrel to have to get 6 outs. I think it was the right move to bring him in when he did. Now bunting with Andrelton to set up EJ is a different conversation.

  33. Mat tingly refusing to pitch to Constanza and Reed to throw to Heyward definitely tops the worst managing moves of all time. Constanza can’t hit one past an infielder and Reed hasn’t had a hit since probably June. Thanks!

  34. Yeah, that Mattingly move was an example of match-ups to an extreme. I wonder if Tony La Russa would have done that.

  35. Fredi dug such a deep hole starting with pinch-running BJ for McCann (not Georgie? Or not at all?) that he wound up looking like a genius after the fact thanks to Mattingly.

  36. Yeah, you definitely don’t sac bunt to set up second and third with Elliot. You do that to set up Uggla. Duh.

    SmElliot Johnson has been as bad as his detractors could have predicted. 0-fer for the series, defensive play that costs the Braves two runs, failure to simply make contact in a runner-on-third, one out situation. There’s no way Uggla could have done worse.

    It’s like having a second pitcher in the line-up, but even that’s not fair to say, as Greinke can hits circles around Johnson. Greinke is hitting .328/.409/.379 in 58 at-bats in 2013.

    I think it’s a mistake Fredi will correct should the Braves reach the NLCS.

  37. #51

    McCann gets the ball to Simmons on a short hop, and Gordon’s standing safe at second. Absolutely the right call to put BJ in as a pinch runner.

  38. I just saw this quote from Freddie about the DP Avilan started:

    “It was a great play by [Avilan] and a great turn by Andrelton. Luckily, I caught the ball. It kind of rattled around my glove. I was like, ‘Oh my God.’ That would have been on the all-time Not Top 10 right there.”

    If he drops that ball, I bet we lose the game.

  39. @52 Dan, your nemesis Elliot turned a double play last night that you could never have done. It was one of the key plays of the game. You may have noticed if you weren’t too busy sulking.

    E Johnson can’t hit. Neither can you. Get over it. Focus on what you’re still good at: arm curls and banging strippers. Soon, you’ll have unlimited time for these activities. Smile. You’re still going to get paid! Just think, there will be no more of that asshole Fredi not understanding your greatness. Frank will be out of your life. We’ll all be out of your life. Everybody wins.

  40. @52, You’re not thinking of putting in BJ as a pinch-runner because McCann will need a defensive replacement. One has nothing to do with the other.

  41. Fun moments at The Ted last night: First time Puig came to the plate, the stadium organist played The Beatles’ “Piggies.”

    The second time, he played Black Sabbath’s “War Pigs.”

    The third AB, I couldn’t hear because the crowd was booing too loud.

  42. I think the 2B umpire would’ve ruled interference on Uribe anyways. He slid like two yards off the bag to try to keep Andrelton from making a bad throw. It didn’t matter because Freddie made the play, but I think it was a fairly obvious call.

  43. Comfort

    @ajcbraves: #Braves Fredi G said Freddy G (Garcia) starts Game 4 regardless of outcome of Game 3.

  44. When three of your top playmakers on offense go down with knee injuries, I find it hard to say that your team is “lucky.” Tennessee certainly played their tails off. And Aaron Murray is clutch.

  45. @51, I think pinch running BJ was pretty sound – if anyone gets a hit, he’s got a better chance to score and he stays out of the DP better You slide Gattis behind the plate and BJ makes your defense better without burning a good PH and Gattis hits first next inning. If BJ comes up in 8th (8 batters later) then probably something good has happened and it’s a non-issue. Carpenter yakking up two to undo it was unfortunate. Pulling Gattis for Laird at the end of the inning was a bad idea that worked out anyway.

  46. 59 — I don’t get it. Medlen only threw 74 pitches in Game 1 and wouldn’t Minor be in normal rest in Game 5?

  47. 65 – I’ve been thinking the same thing all day. Why would we start Freddy over a Medlen who only threw 74 pitches Thursday night? Worst-case scenario, Medlen looks shaky in the early-going and we have another starter stretched out for some long relief.

  48. Didn’t think about it until now, but yesterday could have been McCann’s last game at Turner Field as an Atlanta Brave.

  49. Oh this is nice.

    @ajcbraves: #Braves Schafer has flu symptoms, thought he was getting better yesterday but felt real bad today.

  50. @68 I thought about it. When he was pulled and the cameras showed him in the dugout, I felt a moment of sadness. Here’s hoping we get at least a couple of more weeks of him as a Brave.

  51. The dodgers seems to have figured out Medlen pretty good in the first game. I wouldn’t mind starting Garcia to see if he has better luck and use medlen as the long reliever. I would definitely start Minor if there is a game 5.

  52. In last night’s game, there were 5 caught looking Ks that were out of the zone. That’s unacceptable.

  53. @ 77

    awful…and worse that Selig allows it to endure.

    How about Sonny Boy though? Never heard of him, out of the blue. Extraordinary mound presence c/w great stuff.

    That was a fine game of baseball marred by CB.

  54. @60

    Thanks. Butch and company did a great job, especially in the second half.

    I’m really sold on Butch now. I felt he out coached Richt.

  55. @ 83

    Thank you. So, 2 years behind Mike but also a first round pick.

    You must forgive my ignorance of most things SEC…coming to this country half way through your life it’s hard to first understand and then accept what the NCAA is and does to higher education here so I’ve never become a follower.

    Had I attended one of those colleges myself of course such scruples might well have been left at the door!

  56. If Jordan has the flu or is unable to play they really have no choice but to swap he and Uggla. We née another infielder anyways.

  57. Interesting,

    If we win today we would have a Kershaw vs Garcia matchup in game 4. If we lose today we would have a Nolasco vs Garcia matchup in Game 4.

  58. I’m okay with starting García as long as Fredi has a short hook. I can see García exploiting the Dodgers’ aggression at the plate. Crawford, Puig, Hanley, maybe Ethier–they’re pretty free swingers, are they not?

  59. Kershaw hasn’t ever pitched on short rest before. I’m really hoping that we can get to him after Mattingly let him throw 125 pitches in the blowout 6-1 game. Let’s win these two.

  60. @92, from one of my favorite movies…

    “This is the day, Judah!”

    “Yes, Messala, this is the day.”

  61. @98 to be fair, I did not feel that they were LA-biased, especially in Game 2. I found them pretty neutral.

    At some point I heard them say that they felt that all close calls have gone the Dodgers way.

  62. I can understand Dodgers fans feeling ripped off by that close call on Laird throwing out Gordon. To them I’d say, “Welcome to our world.”

  63. Apparently they are doing their job correctly then. Both sides think they are biased for the opposite team.

  64. Normally, I’d consider that the fallacy of the mean, but I think there is a fair bit of truth to it in baseball broadcasts.

  65. “I mean, I know he WAS out. But you couldn’t tell from where he was standing. The fact that he got the call right doesn’t change the fact that he’s against us.”

  66. Medlen announced as the game 5 starter if necessary. What is going on with the starting pitching decisions in this series? Am I mistaken in thinking that Minor would be on full rest come Wednesday?

  67. Elimination games are all hands on deck anyway. If Medlen looks shaky Minor is a long reliever that game.

  68. St. Louis just tied the game on another missed call. He was out trying to steal third. Beltran singled in the next Ab that scored two with 2 outs.

  69. If we lose I would rather lose with my best guys with Medlen and Minor than Freddy Garcia in Game 4.

  70. If we lose this series it will come down to roster decisions. Elliot Johnson, a sick Jordan Schafer, Jose Constanza, starting Garcia. Medlen didn’t throw 80 pitches in the first start. Go with him on short rest and have Minor start game 5 if needed.

    Let’s just win though.

  71. Justin rips a double and most of the announcers’ praise is for Puig’s hustle to the ball…

  72. Justin Upton gets a double and it’s all about Puig as far as these announcers are concerned.

  73. People are always slow to arrive at Chavez Ravine. Wait until the fourth inning.

    Gattis with the RBI. Go, Braves!

  74. @133 In the inning after your team scored you some runs, you don’t want to give any up to keep momentum on your side. I have never seen it as hyped up as TBS has hyped it this series. I would think that pitchers would want every inning to be one in which they shut out the opposition.

  75. Felt like Julio’s arm slot was a little lower than normal, but I’m probably just seeing things.

  76. 137
    as opposed to every other inning where your goal ISN’T to shutdown the other team and mass and velocity are irrelevant?

  77. Not bad for your first postseason inning! Hard to believe the Braves haven’t started a rookie in the postseason in 65 years. How did we avoid that during the streak?

  78. @143 I know it. I think the concept is incredibly silly. I have never seen “shutdown inning ERAs” shown before. I wonder who had the brilliant idea to have TBS focus on it so much.

  79. Pedro Martinez has to be feeling pretty strange, watching a younger version of himself find that extra gas in the postseason just like he used to do.

  80. Julio looks nervous. McCann did a great job calming him down ad helping him through the inning.

  81. Look at Heyward cut that ball off! All-star stuff right there. Why aren’t the broadcasters talking about this?

  82. Well, that sucks. Still plenty of time, but he has to stop allowing the leadoff man to reach. Oh, and I don’t think we’re going to get Crawford out tonight.

  83. I like how after the HR, McCann had Teheran throw the same pitch. This time, Julio got on top of it and it produced a swing and miss. That curve is a pitch Teheran’s going to need to execute the rest of the game, so he needed to throw one and not hang it.

    Let’s go, offense.

  84. It was a changeup and it was a terrible pitch selection. Crawford was sitting on it because of the waste-pitch fastball up. Grrrrr. Still early though.

  85. We are going to need to find our long ball at some point if we really want to win this series.

  86. That’s the sort of thing that happens to us.

    Edit: And so is that terrible decision to go to the plate.

  87. Damn, McCann had two 3-2 fastballs down the middle. The Dodgers are lucky.

    But maybe we’re getting even more lucky with their bad D.

  88. That could’ve been an inning where we took control of the game. At some point someone is going to have to get an extra-base hit with runners on.

  89. McCann is calling a terrible game. Just terrible. Throw fastballs until they hit one! Grrrr.

  90. We’re going to regret only scoring two last inning.

    Since this is basically an elimination game for us, we need to call it a night for Julio.

  91. This is why we carry 11 pitchers…so we can watch one guy get totally shelled and just sit there and do nothing?

  92. ok…i’m gonna take one for the team and stop watching. maybe that will take some pressure off.

  93. It took Minor a year or so to get to where he could put a way guys more consistently after strike two. That needs to be Julio’s next step.

    Did Wood have the gameplan written in his hat? That’s how I passed sophomore history.

  94. After all of that Fredi caves and brings in Wood. This really should have happened three batters ago. Also, I thought Hale was our long guy?

  95. So I know it’s easy to find other things to blame for us losing (other than our suck), but I completely agree about Hanley getting the extra strike being to blame here. That’s disgusting and makes me want Robot Umpires.

    Screw this.

  96. Brian is really calling a bad game. We are getting ahead with fastballs. They are sitting on the offspeed.

  97. Well we just wasted arguably our best option for long relief…I guess David Hale is gonna have to throw three shutout innings now.

  98. The Dodgers have to be worried that the Braves will come back on them, especially since they, the Dodgers, just left two men in scoring position. This game is far from over.

  99. The worst part about this is if we were just down 2-0 we would still get to face Ryu. Now we get five innings of shutout (junk)ball from Capuano.

  100. And throws the change to almost the same spot and Young whiffs. Too bad that will be all for him, although you could argue that our punchless pinch hitters would not be much of an improvement

  101. I have to believe Fredi will let Wood hit for himself and see if he can pitch 2-4 innings for us.

  102. Why is EJ so aggressive when up in the count? Dude needs to wear a fucking shock collar.

  103. @262

    Of course. MLB will not be denied in its quest to perpetuate its storyline.

  104. We’ve had chances. Plenty of them. Can’t get a hit when it matters. Not over yet, but we’ve seen this movie a thousand times.

  105. They brought the lumber. Hanley Ramirez hates Fredi and he’s getting his revenge I’d say.

  106. Well, this went from bad to worse in a hurry. I guess it doesn’t matter which players are wearing the jerseys. This looks just like the October Braves of the last decade. I have never turned a playoff game off in my life, but I am just not up to watching any more of this tonight.

  107. I love underdog stories, but I don’t want Freddy Garcia to be the last man standing on the 2013 season.

  108. Really Fredi? EJ 0-9 with 4Ks a DP and an error. He should be fired if he starts Garcia tomorrow and we lose.

  109. Dammit, this is the first time in a long time that the Braves and Dodgers have played against one another in the postseason and I miss Mac. He and I would have had a great time bragging on each other’s team as we often did. I’ll raise a glass to him this evening.

  110. The Elliot Johnson decision looks stupid now. Not only has it not even worked, but also has created an unhappy player with two years left on his contract.

  111. Fredi has done a poor job keeping these guys lose. Most of our pitchers have looked nervous. Our defense has been shaky.

  112. #310 – It looked bad a week ago. We have one backup infielder and 3 backup outfielders that can’t hit. Constanza over Uggla was a stupid decision.

  113. Isn’t it typical that other teams’ rookie pitchers (Cole, Gray) pitch great, dominant games, while the Braves’ rookie pitcher shits his pants? The Braves are the French Army of playoff baseball. But at least they get to play golf while the weather is nice.

  114. Is anyone still watching?

    My day starts at 0530, so I am out. The recap should be 2 words:
    we suck

  115. @316, Fredi is a terrible tactician and the little things (starting Teheran on the road, waiting too long to get a RP up) tend to magnify in these situations. He’s Andy Reid, like I’ve been saying all season. Andy Reid does this in the playoffs.

    I can make a solid case for both Dead Man Walking (this should be Hudson’s game really) and Ambush so far. Tomorrow will break that tie (unless we somehow win, in which case we’re headed back to Atlanta for Kershaw and a Clincher)

  116. 317

    I’ve been switching back and forth between the game and Food Network … I got a hankering for some shrimp and grits now.

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