It’ll get better game thread: Sept 12, Marlins at Braves

Seriously, we should be okay, the schedule from here on out is pretty easy. We have Beachy going tonight against Chris Volstad. Everyone calm down, Brandon’s got this.

273 thoughts on “It’ll get better game thread: Sept 12, Marlins at Braves”

  1. One thing that has to be said is that the depth of pitching has saved us. We lose our #2 and #3 starters and their replacements have not missed a beat (they have actually performed a little better to this point than the guys they replaced were doing over the last few weeks). Having replacements the caliber of Minor, Delgado, and Teaheran and having another rookie starter in Beachy is a luxury that no other team in baseball has. Without those guys, I doubt we would have a WC lead right now.

  2. Was not.

    But “Treat Her Like a Lady” & “It’s Too Late to Turn Back Now”—by the awkwardly titled Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose—were 2 of my favorite pop-soul songs when I was a kid.

  3. I always loved, O-o-h Child. Things will get better. Also, Hank I’m real sure Don Cornelius wasn’t part of the Corneilius Brothers, of Treat Her Like a Lady fame. Does anyone remember the SNL skit, with Don Corneilius, and Don Kirshner as dueling Godfathers.

  4. Having lost 6 out of eight, our playoff probability has dropped to… 94.4 percent. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/odds/
    This is not quite up to the probability that Brandon Hicks makes an out in his next at bat in the major leagues, assuming he ever gets one. But it’s about the same as the probability that Dan Uggla doesn’t get two hits on his next two at-bats. If that scares you, it’s just a little lower than the probability that AAG doesn’t get two hits on his next two at bats.

  5. I don’t know; seems like Mac is tempting fate. I’m sure Mets fans in 2007 were saying the same thing. Not that I’m superstitious or anything . . . :)

  6. Would a collapse be worse than the 2007 Mets? It wasn’t that long ago the Braves had a 10.5 and a 9.5 game lead over the Cardinals.

  7. @12
    Yes,he’s the one introducing the Stairsteps. Some other great songs adjacent to that one on the site Mac provided. He hosted for many years, 1971 to 1993 and is now 75. Brought up a lot of memories. Growing up in PC Beach, there was a Club called “Elks Club” we Gulf Coast College kids were invited to by some fellow students. It was an African American club, (obviously not affiliated with the Elks),that had all the great acts come to perform: Ike and Tina Turner, Fontella Bass, Freda Payne, Joe Tex (“Skinny Legs and all Contest”!), Percy Sledge and many more. This was in the mid-60’s and we were the only Caucasians there and were treated like what we were:someone who had the love of great music and dancing in common. That, unfortunately, was just unusual back then. Somewhere my beautiful college romance, Melody, has a picture of her and me sitting on the edge of the front stage with Tina’s long wig swinging above our heads and Ike strumming his guitar behind us. Love to have a copy!

  8. pcb,
    Love that story. I guess that joint was the beach version of the Chitlin’ Circuit.

    Funny, I spent many summers in Destin/Ft. Walton/Panama City area & my only real musical memories of the place was a club called Spinnakers, a venue that gladly accepted my shoddy fake ID.

  9. Ububba,
    LOL on the CC. The Elks Club was in the city not on the beach. You’re too young. I was the a bartender at the original Beach Party the first year it opened In ’64 ( in between life guard jobs) until they found out I was 18 and I was banned. Seems a guy turned away for no ID looked inside, saw me serving up suds and yelled to the bouncer, “hey, I graduated with that guy…last year!” ole hickory (with the Swinging Medallions) and Old Dutch that had the Webs, Wilbur and the James Gang. Great time to be young and a beach bum.

  10. Yesterday, I was asked what it would look like when the Braves started giving a damn.

    The answer is “not like that.”

  11. 2006 “least valuable player in NL” Francoeur: .260/.293/.449, .742 OPS, 29 home runs

    2011 Prado: .261/.307/.385, .691 OPS, 11 home runs

    Compare the amount of vitriol the two got for these respective seasons.

  12. I’d say “Go Pirates!” but I don’t think they’re anxious to do us any favors after the Jerry Meals Game.

  13. 28- I disagree. Strikeouts may be boring and fascist, but the alternative is putting balls in play for our lollygagging fielders.

    29- Agreed, not that it’s likely to do much good. But there’s no excuse for not being ready to play in September; other teams are ready, with much less to play for (theoretically).

  14. Beachy 73 pitches, Volstad 37. Sometimes statistics are meaningless or misleading. This isn’t one of those times.

  15. If I can guess what McCann’s signs mean, the Marlins probably can too. Actually, I never understood why batters don’t look out of their peripheral and try to see the sign the catcher is flashing

  16. 33- I’m afraid your feeling was a false positive. If your hitters don’t want to hit, you can’t make them.

    Edit: … huh?

  17. Thanks Gonzo. And now we have to try to score a run off their bullpen, which is one of the best in baseball

  18. It was clear that AAG was turned around on that popup – Prado/Bourn need to charge in and take care of that one; shouldn’t have been that hard, the ball was up in the air for seemingly forever. Very painful.

  19. A run isn’t a big inning, Ryan. Maybe we’d have gotten more than one run in one of these innings otherwise.

  20. Should’ve known that one would go over AAG’s head. I’d rather dig up Eddie Gaedel’s corpse to play short because at least he could draw a walk.

    EDIT: And then it gets worse. I give up.

  21. The picture of Fredi on the main site for the “Fredi not worried” article makes him look strikingly similar to the goombas in that terrible live action Super Mario Bros. movie.

  22. I remember reading that Dennis Hopper said he acted in that movie because his children needed shoes. One of his kids responded, “Dad, I don’t need shoes that badly.”

    Good news: Ryan Doumit doubled in the tying run for the Pirates!

  23. @80
    Yup. What terrible at-bat by Uggla there. I can’t believe he scorched that ball right to Infante. What a loser.

  24. I’d want to get ahold of Fredi’s bottle before he drinks it. I won’t tell you what I have in mind; I wouldn’t want to incriminate you.

  25. Two-run double by the Pirates’ Pedro Ciriaco off of Fernando Salas.

    “You don’t win games with Salas!
    You don’t win games with Salas!
    You don’t win games with Salas!”

    (/ Simpsons)

  26. Why hit for AAG?

    Because he’s not a good hitter?

    And because if I didn’t complain and sound like a whiner, he wouldn’t have had the chance to show me up?

  27. I know. Bottom of the ninth in a tie game, and suddenly bunts are off limits. The one time where the base means more than the out, and he doesn’t call for the bunt. In the middle of a game, he’ll give out outs like candy.

  28. So… I guess we’re planning on losing this in the 15th or so, then? I swear, it’s like the baseball gods are purposely messing with the Braves.

  29. Joe- “Braves down to Linebrink and Cristhian Martinez”

    …let’s just put it away before Linebrink has to come in.

  30. 174- We’re already on our sixth reliever of the night. So that’s a total of eight relievers we had available this evening, assuming Varvaro is one of the three that you mentioned.

  31. If Chipper can’t do it hopefully Birthday Boy Freddie can celebrate his 22nd with a Walk off for his birthday along with mine!!!

  32. I hate this fucking team…they deserve what they get. If they miss the playoffs, Frediot needs to go. Not that tonight has been his fault, but he still is over matched most nights

  33. Hey, I like the Lisp. But we’re already burning through players like the space shuttle used to burn through rocket fuel, so I didn’t see too much distinction between A-Var and C-Mart when it comes down to getting that last out.

  34. Todd Redmond, is that a guy? He could be up to be held specifically for finishing extra-inning games. Maybe Liberty is too cheap to pay 20 days of MLB salary.

  35. This team is unwatchable right now. So that’s what I’m going to do. Not watch. Maybe we’ll win another game before the season is over.

  36. This team doesn’t deserve to make the playoffs, but they may sneak in just because of the large lead they built up with 25 games remaining or so. It would take a complete collapse for them to miss the playoffs, but I’m not discounting that.

  37. What is there to say? No ability or willingness to adjust their hitting or pitching approach to the situation. No winning until these guys get their heads back into the game.

  38. I have asked this before: does Fredi Gonzalez know that Conrad is a switch hitter?

    Good thing he was available to hit when the game was on the line… wait… he was burned for the punchless Diaz? Because the manager only views him as a left-handed hitter? What about the fact that Conrad has historically hit lefties better than he has righties? Oh right, pre-determined roles help players play better.

    Another team effort tonight, boys.

  39. I have asked this before: does Fredi Gonzalez know that Conrad is a switch hitter?
    Good thing he was available to hit when the game was on the line… wait… he was burned for the punchless Diaz? Because the manager only views him as a left-handed hitter? What about the fact that Conrad has historically hit lefties better than he has righties? Oh right, pre-determined roles help players play better.

    Is Sam around to answer this question? There’s got to be an answer that makes you feel stupid for asking it.

  40. There’s nothing really great on this team except the two relief pitchers. This is starting to remind me of the 1982 20 out of 21 bad streak although I doubt it will get that bad. Of course, the Braves ended up winning the division.

    No doubt the team is pressing but some of the games that went our way before are going the other way now. It happens when you have so little margin for error. And the small crowds in Atlanta with school back in session aren’t going to help. Maybe a big home crowd would get the team excited, but no chance of that in Atlanta.

  41. THE CARDINALS LOST. Can people quit bitching

    I’ve been forced to reconsider my opinion that he’s for real. Definitely a troll. Still, he’s entertaining in a performance art kind of way. (Not very good performance art, but still…)

  42. There’s nothing really great on this team except the two relief pitchers. This is starting to remind me of the 1982 20 out of 21 bad streak although I doubt it will get that bad. Of course, the Braves ended up winning the division.

    I remember that. First time I paid attention to baseball, let alone the Braves. Even as a stupid pre-teen I thought that was a lame way to get into the playoffs.

  43. The Braves have hit a late season slump dropping three games to the Phillies the three to the Cards. We have seen our 8.5 game wild card lead slip to 4.5 in a instant. I believe that this is no time to panic. Our schedule is pretty easy from here on out we just need to play our game. We are still in control of our own destiny. The Cards lost a heart breaker tonight to the pirates which means that another day falls off the schedule. The Braves will find a way to break this slump and be on their way to the postseason. Braves Country have no fear there will be October baseball!!

  44. If you get to the post-season, it doesn’t really matter how you get there.

    The 2000 Yankees were a disaster in September (lost 15 of last 18), ended up winning only 87 games & went all the way.

    The ’06 Tigers pissed away the division to the Twins, snared the Wild Card & still won the pennant.

    The ’06 Cards got plenty of benefit from a weak division, won 83 games & won the World Series.

    The ’87 Twins won 85 games, then upset the Tigers & the Cardinals to win it all.

    Especially since the introduction of the Wild Card, the MLB playoffs are like the NHL playoffs. If you just get in, you have a chance.

  45. “I remember that. First time I paid attention to baseball, let alone the Braves. Even as a stupid pre-teen I thought that was a lame way to get into the playoffs.”

    Actually, the Braves did not back into the playoffs that year. (Well, they did in a way because they lost the last game of the season but got in when Joe Morgan hit a home run to beat the Dodgers.) After the slump, as I recall, the Braves won 13 of 15 and finished with 89 wins. But, during the slump, they were losing in all sorts of bizarre ways. I’m not sure if the Jerry Royster error in L.A. was during that streak but they were dropping pop-ups and just generally finding new ways to lose games. Interestingly, I remember one game that helped turn them around against the Mets where the Mets made a very bad error that gave the Braves the game. The Mets have always been our friends.

  46. I don’t know much about Brad Hand, but I know he’s a lefty. He’s given up more BB than Ks. And he can be a victim of the long ball.

    A game against the Braves is exactly what he needs.

  47. If we take one game from every set from here on out and the Cardinals lose one from every set, I thnk the worst that can happen is a tie.

    That is how much it will take to blow this. It would be one of the top choke jobs of all time.

    So if we blow this, we shold march on Turner Field.

  48. Yeah the Cardinals lost, but the Braves should easily be up 5.5 now. Any other team would have won on that wild pitch with their fastest runner on third.

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