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this is the game that i hope is our turning point of the season and it has all the makeup to be just that. let me explain myself. if all goes as good as i hope it will: 1. medlen has a chance today to earn the 5th starter job if he dominates. kk was successful out of the pen last year and medlen has starter stuff. i do understand the argument that bloggers will make about kk’s salary, but i’d be willing to bet that bobby will try almost anything if it puts a W on the board. 2. the team actually realizes that they can win without heyward. 3. mccann puts on the glasses and is the immediate impact that he was last year around this time.
come on, guys…get it going.
McCann is the opposite of Superman; he puts on his glasses and has superpowers.
This team reeks of the 2008 Atlanta Braves. The worst players are healthy as oxes and your best players can’t get the mail without pulling something.
last thread – “I wholeheartedly agree that Melky sucks. However, I would like to point out he is hitting six points (.185 to .179) higher, with 13 less strikeouts than Nate McLouth. McLouth sucks just as much, if not more than Melky!”
you cant judge players based on BA alone. Based on your last sentence, you really ignore OBP, SLG, SB ability, and other skills. Melky does NOTHING average, he sucks all the way around
most people have reading glasses. mccann has baseball glasses.
when I asked for Hinske I was happy to see it, however, I was hoping he’d replace Melky
McLouth, 8; Prado 4; Chipper, 5; McCann, 2; Glaus, 3; Hinske, 7; Cabrera, 9; Infante, 6; Medlen, 1 32 mins ago
@1–You’re right that the spot in the rotation should depend on performance not on KK’s salary which is a sunk cost.
Frank – good point, however, Id rather see Medlen replace Lowe. For some reason, I have far more confidence in KK over Lowe
The point applies more broadly to include Lowe–the best options for the rotation should be based on performance not on salary commitment. If that means Medlen and KK with Lowe as the one out of the rotation then so be it.
I wonder if Lowe shares Chipper’s thinking about retiring before a contract expires if his performance is not acceptable. One can hope …
Postgame Lowe: “It’s a completely different feeling than last year. Last year I felt lost. This year I feel like I can do what you want to do, and give up a touchdown. I’ve always said hitters will tell you how you’re doing, and obviously it’s not very good.”
Hell yeah, give up a touchdown amount of runs for the other team is what you can do, Sir.
1 — I’m not sure if I’d rather put KK or Lowe into the bullpen.
I saw that the over-under on this game is 10 1/2. Honestly, Medlen and our bullpen aren’t bad enough to give up 11 runs…
But Brian, the O/U is for combined runs so that means you ad….
Yeah, I’ll take the under too.
I would seriously consider starting Venters or Redmond in place of Lowe next week against Milwaukee.
Ive got my doubts but do you think Hinske can give these guys a spark like Prado kind of did last season? Theyve gotta hit Blanton and Id love to see someone in the lineup other than Diaz and Melky right now
at least no Utley today
Wow! A big rally!
Edit: … Shortcircuited by Glaus and Hinske. Of course. They say that you can’t give a good team four outs, but the Braves got five and did nothing with them.
They gave us three baserunners. Unbelievable.
two errors and a hit batsman and cant score. Glaus and Hinske had awful AB’s. How many times can these guys not get the job done with a guy at 3rd and less than two outs?
I thought he had Howard struck out on 3 pitches.
Kris, hit a home run here and you might have a chance.
… The scary thing is that Kris had the longest and probably best AB of any Brave so far.
I havent said it yet today, I HATE FOX. Stupid blackouts.
i’m tired of having strikeout king hitting 5th. he’s got to put the bat on the ball…
medlen playing with fire…and we have no fire extinguishers.
Bobby, just walk out onto the field and forfeit this one. It’s over.
5 hits and a lot of pitches are up…maybe this isnt the turning point. maybe there is no turning point.
Medlen’s probably on a pitch count limit. At this rate, he won’t make it through 4.
I feel bad for medlen. He is a tough kid and has battled in that pen all year. But this is a tough spot to get a spot start. Against the phillies in a game where you have to win because you’ve been struggling. Also the last two nights you had no offense at all. So you have to be perfect. I’m rooting for them to score some runs for the kid!
If/when we lose, we’ll fall 7 games back.
oldtimer, Fox is doing you a favor.
The problem being so many games back is that we aren’t just chasing the phillies. But also the mets/marlins and an improved nationals team. Its gonna be rough
Okay, what the hell is wrong with Nate McLouth?
34—We’re not chasing anybody. We’re lying down and watching them all run away from us. I’m so disgusted.
I sincerely hope JH gets a 2 week minor league rehab assignment. Burning a year of his service time on this bunch is patently futile.
/although I guess it doesn’t count without a roster move, and he’s clearly not going to be sent down for talent reasons. This team has screwed us across the board.
Didn’t see McCann first AB – Why isn’t he wearing glasses?
Wouldn’t he still get service time though if he’s not on the 60 day DL?
@36 I haven’t posted as often as I once did for a myriad of reasons that have nothing to do with baseball, but I share your disgust and have never been so upset with this organization. Liberty Media is the root of the problem; inflexible, bottom-line, corporate ownership doesn’t work in professional sports and has led to half-assed solutions (Melky, Hinske) for fatal flaws in the lineup. I fear nothing will fundamentally change until ownership that gives a damn is at the wheel of the organization.
I was wondering what had happened to “The Pictures.” I think I know where one set of them is.
Anyone know when our only good player is coming back?
Blanton has thrown 63 pitches through 3 without surrendering a hit.
What’s a hit? Those things the Phillies get a lot of?
43 – What I’d like to do to my radio when the braves are on.
Kris is doing a fine, if Sisyphean, job.
He hasn’t walked anyone and has kept it in the park with a K an inning. I’d say he’s done well.
Medlen is one of about three Braves I enjoy watching play.
37, Players accumulate service time when they’re on rehab assignments.
Go play in traffic, Melky.
Hell of an at bat by melky there
We are being no-hit again. LOL. Also, COL.
This has to be an offense of historic suckitude.
Medlen’s probably getting tired.
Medlens in a tough spot today. I give him credit for battling
Mondesi was released for less than what Melky has committed this year.
Besides not hitting they play sloppy baseball every game. Dissapointing for a bobby cox team
How much would you pay to participate in a Melky dunk tank? I say $50, $100 if I can get Maddux to throw for me.
Medlen decides someone needs to hit
And Medlen breaks up the no-no. Now if he steals second and third, maybe he can score on a wild pitch or something.
… Thanks a heap, Nate. Why do we even bother?
Is McLouth already done?
Mclouth must want to get back to the hotel early to watch re-runs of the office
JC said yesterday a strikeout was a “Braves hit”–I think to refine that, a “Braves hit” is a strikeout with a man on first, thus preventing the otherwise inevitable double play.
Medlen battled. Easy to root for that kid
RE: Melky dunk tank – I wouldn’t pay a red cent unless the tank had sulfuric acid in it.
(Not enough to kill him you understand- Just enough to get him onto the 60 day DL. I’m mad, not murderous. Yet, anyway).
EDIT: Ugh – we’re getting screwed by the umpires now, Polanco was clearly out. I guess letting Medlen hit when he was going to be taken out was the best thing, since he’s not only our starting pitcher, he is our top hitter as well today.
I don’t guess Heyward is available to pinch hit. Maybe we could get someone to walk and look for him to give us a 2 run homer. He can pitch hit for anyone in the lineup as long as he hits with a runner on first.
This is currently the most embarrassing stat line I think I have seen in a braves game in 20 years. The emergency starter has the only hit through 5. I don’t see myself watching on TV anytime soon.
Through five and still within one run.
Can we quit now and call it a moral victory?
Why was Medlen pulled? For showing up the rest of the team?
Unfortunately when we replaced Medlen we pulled the best hitter in our lineup.
Fine emergency start by Medlen- he kept the ball down, didn’t give up any power, and resisted the urge to strangle his useless teammates. I’m not sure any of us could do the same, especially that last one.
Glaus gets an Atlanta hit.
Sadly. When glaus popped out there. I said. I guess that’s a small victory and as good as I could have expected!
What’s that weird word after “In play” on Gameday?
Medlen can’t win this one but someone damn well better buy him a steak tonight.
Also if I gave up four hits in an inning to this Braves lineup I would consider retiring or at least going on the DL.
Melky with an RBI single. I don’t believe it.
Words have apparently failed mac. Anybody down his way able to check in on him to make sure he’s OK?
Medlen’s earned a spot in the rotation as far as I’m concerned. Lowe would be going to the pen.
Oh, my God, a week’s worth of runs!
Sorry, I was busy buying canned goods and ammunition for the forthcoming apocalypse.
Hit the Bull Craig!!!
This guy appears to have no control. Not good for a relief pitcher in a close game, especially against the Phillies. Walks kill.
Gameday makes it look like Kimbrel has returned to his old ways.
Juuust a bit outside.
Kimbrel has no idea where it’s going.
Moylan is awesome.
Fox just switched to our game now that Yanks-Sox is in a rain delay.
Right down the middle for ball 2?
It was low.
If B-Mac could just get on to load the bases for Glaus it would just be too perfect.
Too bad he swung at ball four. Now Glaus can’t bang into a double play. It’s another Atlanta Hit for Glaus.
we might get a win today, but jeff francoeur will be a loser the rest of his life: .243 avg .325 obp KEEP SWINGING!
and hinske should be getting quite a few starts the next few days.
Come on, Glaus. Just a single.
Glaused over again.
Glaus being Glaus. Please, Frank, let Glaus be unemployed soon.
9 LOB for Glaus.
Peter, it would be nice if you threw strikes.
McCann tries to offer Moylan his glasses, since Moylan clearly needs them more.
I don’t like the way this is shaping up.
The rookie against Howard with the game on the line.
A base hit ties it.
I don’t know that you have to walk Howard, but I don’t think I’d throw him too many strikes.
Well done, Venters!
I think the wind is having an affect on pitcher control. Nice job by Venters.
I know we usually second guess after a failed move, but should Cox have had Wagner in that situation instead? He would have made a double switch, of course.
Would much rather face Howard than Werth.
You know, I bet Moyer and Contreras have lots of fun in the clubhouse, sitting there, drinking martinis and reminiscing about the Bay of Pigs invasion.
Hinske should be playing everyday.
I think Cox has finally realized that Cabrera, if he absolutely has to be in the lineup, should be treated as a pitcher.
At least Melke can bunt. That’s the second good bunt I’ve seen from him. So there – you guys who say Melky can’t do anything well!
Heyward doesn’t get the hit, but it’s a good sign that Bobby used him there; Bobby was talking about not using him to pinch-hit in case he had to go on the DL retrospectively.
saito scares me…
3.2 hitless innings from the pen (but 4 walks against 2 strikeouts).
McLouth remembers how to hit… and forgets how to run.
McCann is semi-intentionally walked, because Cox is the last person in the National League to twig to Glaus’ futility.
Edit: Even blind pigs find occasional acorns.
A McCann walk here gives Glaus a chance to strand 11.
Wow! Finally an RBI!
Still kinda miffed Bobby gave up an out when we had one of our best hitters up. Especially against this guy. Baez is awful.
And what Fox giveth, Fox taketh away. And returns.
And it’s a miracle.
And of course the Fox game switches back to Yankees-Sox with one out in the ninth. Screw Fox.
Hats off to Medlen. A great performance.
The bullpen deserves a lot of credit, too. Although it’s a bit disturbing that this is only Wagner’s 4th save five weeks into the season.
That’s more a factor of the way the games have been won than anything else. A lot of lopsided or comeback games.
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