Open thread

I don’t really have anything, but the other thread is pretty full. Oh, Bobby is talking McBride as a starter, but that really hasn’t worked, plus the team doesn’t have any other quality lefthanders but Gonzalez.

27 thoughts on “Open thread”

  1. If McBride can start, I’m willing to try to scrape by with just one quality lefty in the pen. We’ll need all the starters we can get, especially until Mike Hampton gets his command back, assuming that ever happens.

  2. The conditon of the rotation will be one of the keys–if not the key–to the season. The good news is that we have great depth in the bullpen, so McBride might get his chance. That said, I also like thinking of him pitching as another Mike Stanton…

  3. I’m not opposed to McBride in the rotation, if thats where he would would do the team the most good.

  4. I’d leave him in the pen personally. There he makes going to the pen in the 5th and 6th much easier to tolerate than if we had to go to Kali or some non-descript left-hander off the junk pile. As I see it, in the current salary environment, the best the Braves can do is to have a shut down bullpen, so I’m not for making any moves that are going to begin diluting that strength alreaydy. Besides, I can’t imagine that McBride would go much more than 5 innings per start, which I know is fine for a 5th starter, but I still don’t like the move much. Oh well, they have to know much more than I do…

  5. i think he needs to proove that he’s durable before we give him starts. it seems that giving him more innings in smaller concentrations may only agrivate his arm issues. i know he started for most of his career, has he been used much in muti-inning refief?

  6. It seems to me Bobby is just engaging in more of his “all of our players are great, they can do anything, and we have no weakesses” BS. McBride has had a terrible time getting out right-handed hitters, which suggests that he might not be so great starting. If he had been such a good starter, I assume they would not have switched him in the first place. Frankly, I take everything Bobby says publicly with a grain of salt because he never acknowledges any problems with the team or his players.

  7. It’s worth noting that there is a difference between not criticizing has players and not acknowledging limitations. You’re right, Marc, Bobby won’t rank out McBride, but he’s not going to start in Atlanta.

  8. I wouldnt put too much time into this. Bobby was also very impressed with Jonathan Johnson, enough said! McBride will be in the pen this year while startup, devine, and stockman all mature in AAA. If we lose Smoltz next year, then it may be time to move McBride or others into the starting role. Its just an emergency option

  9. This AP chat with Francoeur makes me so angry:

    From Mr.Free-swinger:
    “People ask me all the time if I can work on my patience, but you can’t really work for patience,” Francoeur said. “Walks don’t matter to me. I’m never going to be a 100-walk guy. I’m trying to have as much fun as I can. I’m an offensive guy, and when I get up there I’m trying to drive the ball. At the same time, I’m not stupid. There are some situations where I’m going to be able to take some walks.”

    It’s not patience, dummy, it’s strike zone recognition. By Francoeur’s crippled understanding of baseball, I guess Ted Williams wasn’t and Bonds aren’t “offensive guys” because they don’t try to “drive the ball” when it’s thrown 2 feet outside and in the dirt.

    What if pitchers refuse to throw you strikes, Frenchy? Will you still refuse to be a 100 walk guy, if no pitcher ever throws you a strike?
    That article show he still hasn’t learned much. Even worse, he just accepts that his buddy McCann is going to be a better hitter than him, like he’s happy to be strikeout king as long as every once in a while he hits a 600 foot HR when a dumb pitcher accidentally throws him a strike. I hope Frenchy isn’t as dumb as he sounds in this interview, and that they just left all of his intelligent remarks off the record.

  10. Frenchy almost never bats 7th. He’s usually batting 6th, sometimes 5th, and on one memorable occasion 3rd. There will be real hitters coming up after him to drive him around and in.

    And again, outs are the clock of baseball. Run the clock as fast as Frenchy, and there’s almost nothing you can do to redeem yourself.

  11. I wouldn’t read too much into Francoeur’s comments. I think he is just stating a fact–he is not likely to ever be an on-base machine. He acknoledges that he needs to be more selective. If he does that, he will get more walks. Let’s fact it, in the macho bseball world, very few hitters will acknowledge taht they try to get walks–they think it makes them sound wimpy. The macho thing is to swing the bat. I’m sure even Barry Bonds would say that.

  12. repost for end of last thread: i am looking for a fantasy league that has draft on a weekend. if you know of one with braves journalists, let me know. thanks.

  13. Nobody asked Frenchy to take 100 walks, he’s setting up a straw man to excuse himself from the real problem – learning strike zone judgement. Patience vs impatience is secondary. A good hitter lays off bad pitches and waits for a good pitch to hit. Frenchy seems to think patience is more about waiting for a certain number of pitches before swinging. Thus, when he tries to act patient, he just lets a good strike go without swinging, then after 2 strikes, swings at anything. It’s as if he thinks he has to make up his mind about swinging before the pitch is thrown. Unfortunately, if his swing is too long, maybe he does, and maybe that’s the real problem.

  14. Maybe he SHOULD take 100 walks. At least he’d be like Adam Dunn if he did, and he’s tolerable. .300 OBP is all I ask though. So as long as he ups his walks, that’s fine. I don’t want to talk about it anymore.

  15. I really hope the Braves don’t let Stockman and Devine “mature” (aka rot) in AAA for another year. They’ve matured enough, not letting them on the team so you can have spots for Paronto and Yates is a travesty.

  16. Devine has been pushed far too much already. I remain unconvinced that he will ever pitch well in the big leagues; I think he is psychologically damaged goods. But if he is going to have a chance, let him have some success in the minor leagues first. He hasn’t even pitched well yet in AAA! He has less than a full season’s worth of professional experience, what with the injuries.

  17. i’m with Mac, let Devine proove himself at AAA. maybe then he’ll have some confidence. Currently(by no fault of his own) he’s Kolb—lite, those slams killed him.

  18. Fox Sports columnist and all-around Braves-basher Dayn Perry is doing the top 100 MLB prospects. He’s currently on 80-90. Lillibridge is #86.

    86. Brent Lillibridge, SS, Braves
    Age: 23
    Acquired: 4th round, 2005, U. of Washington (by Pirates)
    Nabbed from the Buccos in the Adam LaRoche deal, Lillibridge is, quite honestly, not the kind of prospect with whom Pittsburgh needs to part. Hits for average, takes his walks (hence, excellent on-base skills), mans short in impressive fashion, runs the bases well and flashes good power to the gaps. In other words, the generally bereft Pirates cut bait on an impact prospect. If Lillibridge shows more raw power in the upcoming season, then he’ll vault up this list.

  19. Obviously, it would be nice if Francoeur drew 100 walks. But that’s sort of an arbitrary and unfair standard. Lots of good hitters don’t draw 100 walks. I doubt that Mays or Aaron ever did (obviously in a different context). The point is, he has to get enough walks to make him a productive hitter, both in terms of reducing the number of outs he makes and gettting better pitches to hit. And there is a fine balance that hitters have to strike between taking too many pitches and being overly aggressive. Langerhans seems to have the opposite problem. IMO, you can’t just focus on OBP to the exclusion of everything else that’s involved in hitting. Do you really want someone like Langerhans that gets a lot of walks, but can’t hit? I don’t care how high the OPB is, at some point, a hitter has to swing the bat and hit the ball.

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