Why? I mean, why?

Atlanta Braves : Official Info : Press Release

ATLANTA — The Atlanta Braves took another step towards completing their 2007 Major League roster today, agreeing to terms with free-agent relief pitcher Tanyon Sturtze on a one-year contract. Financial terms were not disclosed.

An 11-year Major League veteran, Sturtze has a career record of 40-44 with a 5.21 earned run average in 269 games that include 84 starts. Last season with the New York Yankees, he was 0-0 with a 7.59 earned run average in 18 games before undergoing season-ending rotator cuff surgery at the end of May.

The 36-year-old Sturtze has made two trips to the postseason in his career with the Yankees in 2004 and 2005. He has spent time with six teams: Chicago Cubs (1995-1996), Texas Rangers (1997), Chicago White Sox (1999-2000), Tampa Bay Devil Rays (2000-2002), Toronto Blue Jays (2003) and New York Yankees (2004-2006).

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110 thoughts on “Why? I mean, why?”

  1. Schuerholz may be looking to sign a bunch of bad pitchers, and then merge them into one or two totally awesome pitchers.

    This has worked so well in the past few years.

    I am not a fan of the Grand Tanyon, but I guess I will have to make do.

  2. OH MY GOD, Schuerholz has actually become senile. He forgot that Tanyon Sturtz was one of the worst relief pitchers in baseball–maybe even worse than Tyler Yates. At least now JS can say–“see, we can too sign free agents!”

  3. Marc, Sturtze isn’t even close to as good as Yates, and he’s coming off of rotator cuff surgery. We’d be better served by bringing back Jeff Reardon.

  4. Most similar pitchers to Tanyon Sturtze:

    1. John Wasdin (971)
    2. Pat Mahomes (962)
    3. Albie Lopez (955)
    4. Jim Bullinger (954)
    5. Scott Sanders (949)
    6. Brian Williams (948)
    7. Karl Drews (947)
    8. Dickie Noles (946)
    9. Scott Schoeneweis (946)
    10. Todd Van Poppel (941)

  5. everyone is overlooking the real issues here – JS isnt doing this for his talent, he is doing it for us fans. Rooting for Tanyoneroooooooooo, or even making fun of him, will overshadow the wins and losses

  6. David O’Brien says the deal is 1YR/750,000.

    He also says that Chris Reitsma is lobbying Braves’ officials to be a Brave again, showing them his arm is healthy.

  7. Dan,

    See? Not much of a risk there.

    Reitsma? Back with the Braves? AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHA… oh, wait, he’s serious.

  8. Well, it’s the truth. But everyone has to have one or two good seasons in them. Relatively speaking, of course.

  9. Okay, it’s a little more. From wikipedia:

    “On December 3, 2006, Sturtze signed a one year $750,000 contract with the Atlanta Braves. The contract pays him an additional $350,000 if he spends one day on the active 25 man roster.”

  10. Here’s the list of the Bowl match-ups…

    USC-Michigan in the Rose Bowl. Not a bad old school matchup. My brother is a UofM grad, so I imagine he’ll come out and use my other ticket and my wife will stay home. Good times all around.

    A repeat of 2003 would work for me.

  11. I have no problem with the Florida Ohio State matchup. However, can you belive one voter in the Harris poll gave Florida a first place vote. Ohio State is a no brainer unanimous number one.

  12. They were probably trying to “cheat them in”. You know, Florida #1, Akron #2, etc. on down until you run out of non-Michigans.

    I think Florida was the right team, anyways.

  13. I’m the biggest Gator homer on this site, and there’s no way that Florida could even be close to a #1 choice. It may have been a Gator writer/former coach/affiliate trying to manipulate the vote, kind of like how Bob Stoops and his brother both put Auburn like 23rd of something in ’04 to give OU enough votes to get into the title game.
    However, anyone that thinks OSU is not the #1 right now is not thinking clearly.

    I think they made the right choice for the title game, but Kirk Herbstreit made a quality case for Michigan to be #2. His biggest point in my opinion was basically “what if the OSU-UM game was last night?” when people were saying there should be a rematch. My question is how much of the close proximity of Florida’s SEC championship to the voting played a part. However, Kirk said that Michigan shouldn’t be penalized for the Big 10 being a little worse than it hass in recent years. But if you follow that logic, does that mean Boise State should be in the national title. After all, it’s not their fault their conference stinks, right?

    Go Gators.

  14. Herbstreit is smoking rope if he thinks the date of OSU game made any difference for Michigan’s chances.

    At least he said that Florida “won the best conference in the country.”

    Nine of the 12 SEC teams got bowl bids, including 3 vs. Big 10 teams (Ark-Wis, Tenn-PSU, UF-OSU).

    BTW, what the hell is a Hokie?

  15. Headline on atlantabraves.com at this point.

    “Braves bolster bullpen with Sturtze.”

    The definition of bolster is thus:

    “To add, support, or uphold.”

    Sturtze “adds” to the bullpen in that they have one more body. That’s all he is projected to do at this point, lol. I think a more accurate headline would be

    “Sturtze another body for bullpen.”

  16. Tyler Yates Tanyon Sturtze Tyler Tanyon Yates Sturtze

    Are these relief pitchers or soap opera characters?

  17. Ah, but “bolster” the noun is defined as:

    1. a long, often cylindrical, cushion or pillow for a bed, sofa, etc.
    2. anything resembling this in form or in use as a support.
    3. any pillow, cushion, or pad.

    So he’s a soft, cushionlike object which will be used in support.

  18. All hail the mighty BCS! Auburn gets jobbed by the BCS again. Must be coz Tuberville is so vocal about there being a playoff. I’m guessing that USC gets into a BCS bowl and not Auburn because tehy beat more teams in the top 10(oh wait, not they didn’t). Sorry for the rant. BTW. BIG fan of the Sturtze signing–wait for it–BWHAHAHAWHAHAHWA.

  19. Can anyone explain to me how Sturtze stilll has a job in the major leagues? He ain’t even a lefty. I think that Schuerholz got a hold of some very bad crack.

    Here in Buckeye country the talk has been whither Florida or Michigan. Noone wanted Michigan again. I’m neutral here. I’m orignallly from South Carolina so I don’t worship at the idol of OSU football but does UF have a chance? This Buckeye team is very talented.

  20. The Sturtze signing is incredible. And to think, he will cost us less than $1 million! I think he will have every bit as big of an impact as the Todd Pratt signing did last year! As far as pitcher’s go, I think he ranks slightly ahead of Travis Smith.

  21. *rolls his eyes*

    It’s a Mondesi-style risk. With the crappy bullpen we had last year, that’s a risk I’d be willing to take.

  22. It is a relatively small risk, sure. But a Sturtze here, a Mondesi there, and a Remlinger there again, these contracts add up. I say forego the horseshit players altogether, except as NRIs. There is nothing Sturtze can do that Kevin Barry, Paul Bush, or Will Startup can’t.

  23. Heh. I think it’ll be up to the Gators to decide whether the SEC sweeps the Big 10, because the other matchups should be SEC wins, easy.

    I’m glad the Gators got in, but I’m not surprised. Sports writers/commentaters/pundits have a VERY short attention span. Herbstreit is right about one thing (and that’s really about all…): if the Michigan/OSU game had been more recent, the vote would have been a LOT closer. But that was, like, three weeks ago, so who cares? The Gators beat someone just yesterday, so in they (very deservingly) go.

    I realize this is purly academic, but what do you guys think would have happened if USC pulls it out, say 15-13 on a last-second hail mary from the 50? Do you think there’s any chance that the voters would penalize them the same way they seemingly wanted to penalize UF for the South Carolina game? ‘Cause I really don’t. I think we would have heard about how “gutty” USC was to pull out the win, and they would have been sent happily to the championship game. But like I say, it’s purely academic. :-)

  24. The only memory I have of Sturtze is after Arod’s beaning in Fenway, and Sturtze ran out into the brawl and came up with a bloody ear…

  25. I hope Al Wilson will be ok, I just hope its not the same injury that my favorite defensive player,David Pollack(Who happens to be from Georgia and just so happens to play on my favorite pro team, Cincy) had…

  26. No Glavine but Sturtze and Florida is playing for the Nat’l Title. This is officially the crappiest week I have had in years.

    The terrorists really ARE winning.

  27. “There is nothing Sturtze can do that Kevin Barry, Paul Bush, or Will Startup can’t.”

    Kevin Barry sucks to high heaven. No team would even take him when the Braves puts him on waivers. Even the horrible second off couldn’t stop the Royals from taking Ken Ray.

  28. “No Glavine but Sturtze…”

    Hey, cheer up. The winter meetings start tomorrow. Who knows what Schuerholz will do.

    (Don’t laugh)

  29. Scott Williamson got 1 yr/900K

    Sturtze 1yr/750K guaranteed, 350K for making 1 appearance, based on appearances we might have to give up another 450K.

    I would rather have had a risk on Scott, I do believe!

  30. Alex R., as usual, I agree with you.

    By the way, I have a confession to make. We were missing a fourth player for our contract bridge game last night, so I actually chloroformed John Schuerholz and kidnapped him to be my partner. I guess the drugs didn’t wear off very well today. I’m really sorry about that.

    On the plus side, I still have most of a bottle of chloroform left… that might come in rather handy next season…

  31. Peter Gammons says Mike Hampton called John Schuerholz and offered to rework his contract to allow for the Braves to bring Glavine back. Instead of making 14.5 million himself, Hampton was willing to take a big enough paycut that him and Glavine combined got the same 14.5 million.

    I wish Hampton would do that anyway despite Glavine signing with the Mets.

  32. Hampton’s contract is so backloaded as it is, do we really wanna be paying ~$5M when he’s gone?

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  34. “how Bob Stoops and his brother both put Auburn like 23rd of something in ‘04 to give OU enough votes to get into the title game.”

    haha, what the hell? You realize the BCS wasn’t even close between OU and Auburn, right, and most of the difference was due to Auburn’s weak schedule, and OU was number 2 the entire year and hardly needed help in the polls? What a stupid thing to say.

  35. The Florida news is great–I really thought the SEC would get screwed again. Happy to be wrong!

    About the term bolster: in Singapore (and other parts of Asia_ the bolster remains an important part of people’s lives. Children are given a bolster (that is, the long, cylindrical pillow) to hold onto every night so that they can sleep. Many Singaporeans never outgrow the need for the bolster. It is a nation without any real atheletic ability (the only Singapore medalists are ping pong players imported from China) but at least they clutch their bolsters….

    It cannot hurt to take a flyer on Sturtze, but we don’t need a bolster!

    Going back to the comment about Kevin Barry, Paul Bush and Will Startup, the Braves almost never take their own relief prospect seriously–except in the case of Joey Devine.

  36. Auburn gets jobbed by the BCS again. Must be coz Tuberville is so vocal about there being a playoff.

    Or it could be because they gotted rolled twice at home. One of the two I’m sure.

    if USC pulls it out, say 15-13 on a last-second hail mary from the 50? Do you think there’s any chance that the voters would penalize them the same way they seemingly wanted to penalize UF for the South Carolina game?

    They would have penalized them sure, but it likely wouldn’t have mattered because USC would have been the top one loss team in all six of the computers. Any sort of win short of a Oregon over Oklahoma type thing would have put the Trojans in Glendale. Personally, even if the Trojans had scored on their last drive to win, I would have voted for Michigan or Florida. USC looked horrible on Saturday. Booty looked like a less mobile Reggie Ball out there. Just horrible. I hope he leaves early.

    Nine of the 12 SEC teams got bowl bids

    The Pac 10 got eight of ten teams bowl eligible so we got you percentage wise. It would have been nine of ten if Washington hadn’t found a way to give Stanford their only win. Considering the Pac 10 added the extra conference game this season (insuring their teams a 5-5 record for the 12th game) as opposed to all the other conferences doing rent-a-wins (hello Western Carolina etc), it was a real strong season for the conference whether you want to believe it or not.

  37. “how Bob Stoops and his brother both put Auburn like 23rd of something in ‘04 to give OU enough votes to get into the title game.”

    haha, what the hell? You realize the BCS wasn’t even close between OU and Auburn, right, and most of the difference was due to Auburn’s weak schedule, and OU was number 2 the entire year and hardly needed help in the polls? What a stupid thing to say.

    True. This never happened. The biggest bogus manipulation of the polls recently was when Mack Brown got a bunch of his friends to screw Cal out of the Rose Bowl two years back.

  38. Going back to the comment about Kevin Barry, Paul Bush and Will Startup, the Braves almost never take their own relief prospect seriously–except in the case of Joey Devine.

    That’s not necessarily true. At least, it didn’t used to be true. Mark Wohlers, Mike Stanton, Kent Mercker (more of a starter prospect though, really), and even Pedro Borbon and Brad Clontz got plenty of time. Even today, the Braves appear to be taking Macay McBride seriously, as they should be. Blaine Boyer might have been alongside him if not for his shoulder trouble.

    That said, the organization has shown reluctance to use its own players in big league relief roles for a while now. That’s fine if there are better players available who the Braves can get ahold of. But if the alternative is Tanyon Sturtze, go with the youngsters.

  39. I certainly realize that during the previous decade the Braves took their own relief prospects more seriously than they do today. I take the point about Boyer and McBride, but both were starters converted to relief roles (to be fair Boyer was told when he signed that he might well pitch out of the pen). With respect to Devine, the Braves could not get him to the majors fast enough and may have ruined him in the process–though I think that it is too early tell. However, the Braves would not Buddy Hernandez pitch an inning when he was dominant–and when they had some holes in their bullpen.

    Assuming they pitch well at AA and AAA, I really hope that Bush, Basner, Startup (who again has shown signs of being rushed–witness his AFL performance and his Richmond numbers) Schneider and, yes, Devine can their fair chance to pitch for the Braves.

    And, yes, they are less expensive than veterans.

  40. Robert,

    The Pac 10 got 6 bowl teams, not 8. I wouldn’t start touching myself over “bowl-eligible.”

    Unfortunately, there are no SEC-Pac 10 matchups.

  41. I’m finally past the point of “annoyed” and well on into “amused” at Robert’s insistance on making the Pac 10 out to be comparable to the SEC.

    But hey, whatever keeps you sane after losses to Oregon State and UCLA.

  42. I hear ya, Stu. I don’t know whether to skip over them or read them to feel better about my stance on the SEC.

    As for the Stoops-manipulation, I had never read that, so I probably can’t pass it off as fact. It would seem like the logical thing to do, and I don’t have the BCS rankings for 2004, but I doubt that it “wasn’t close. You don’t run the table in a major conference, no matter what kind of year (up or down), and not even get close to making it to the title game.

  43. Didn’t Oklahoma lose to K-State in the conference championship that season? Or am I thinking of a different year? I thought it was 2004; if so, Auburn really got screwed.

  44. “how Bob Stoops and his brother both put Auburn like 23rd of something in ‘04 to give OU enough votes to get into the title game.”

    haha, what the hell? You realize the BCS wasn’t even close between OU and Auburn, right, and most of the difference was due to Auburn’s weak schedule, and OU was number 2 the entire year and hardly needed help in the polls? What a stupid thing to say.

    Oh, here’s the Coaches Poll (the only poll Bob Stoops can have any control over) for December 7-13, 2004:

    1. Southern California (35 1/3) 12-0 1,490 1
    2. Oklahoma (16 1/3) 12-0 1,459 2
    3. Auburn (9 1/3) 12-0 1,435 3

    I’m not a living expert on how the points are tabulated for the Coaches Poll, but there’s a 24 points out of roughly a 1,500 point system difference between Oklahoma and Auburn. David15 says it wasn’t even close; that looks pretty close to me, buckaroo. Two coaches putting Auburn in the bottom part of the top 25 to give Oklahoma enough points to remain in second seems fairly logical. In fact, I would even say it wasn’t “such a stupid thing to say.” Doesn’t that seem a little bit harsh anyway?

  45. Votes, polls, computers—all stupid. Let’s get rid of them forever.

    There’s only one way to know if Florida is really better than Michigan, and it ain’t from a computer or a poll tabulated from people who might’ve watched one or two of their games.

  46. Adam LaRoche can give Atlanta better production than Richie Sexson’s for less, and he’s 4 years younger. AND he’s left-handed. AND he plays better defense. There’s no way that deal happens, unless JS is going to fleece someone for LaRoche.

  47. From the NY Times story about the BCS polls. Another reason why this system is goofy…

    George Perles, a Harris Interactive voter and a former Michigan State coach, said he put Michigan at No. 2 in part because of where he lives.

    “They lost one game to the best team in the country,” Perles said in a telephone interview from his home in East Lansing, Mich. “And No. 2, because they’re from the state of Michigan, and I just so happen to live here.”

    And then, there’s this:

    Adding to the quirkiness of the day was the former Washington State and Iowa State coach Jim Walden voting Florida No. 1, the only person in either poll to do so.

    “If you look at the Big Ten conference, it is a joke,” Walden said in a telephone interview late last night. He added: “I voted my heart and I voted my strength of what I believe in. In my opinion, Florida is the No. 1 team in the nation.”

  48. Ububba–Thanks for the Walden quote–it is refreshing to see somebody who is not an SEC fan avoid the Big Ten bandwagon….

  49. I have a lot more sympathy for that Walden cat than the others. I mean, he may be wrong, but at least he voted Florida #1 cause he believes they are the best team and not just to arrange a particular match-up or cause he lives in Florida.
    I’m really torn here. One the one hand, as a Tennessee fan, I want the SEC to win everything. On the other hand, as a Tennessee fan, I really, really loathe Florida, Chris Leak, Urban Meyer, and thousands of Florida fans (Rob Cope excluded). I don’t know what I’m gonna do. All this ridiculous outrage from Forde and other “experts” is starting to make me hope that Florida blows out OSU just so they’ll shut the hell up and recognize the significance of a SEC conference schedule. But on the gripping hand, my girlfriend is a die-hard Florida fan and might become insufferable if Florida wins the Nat’l Championship (yes, clearly I am a terrible and petty man).
    And now I have to pull for USC to beat Michigan. I hate pulling for USC. What a terrible weekend football-wise.

  50. I heard about that Richie Sexson thing, sounds stupid. The only way that happens is if Schuerholz has that trade for two young starters from the Pirates for LaRoche lined up. Any trade involving the Pirates better include Mike Gonzalez.

    I don’t think it will happen. It’s Ben Maller.

  51. That Walden quote may sound a little off the wall, but he may not be too far off. Walden does a weekly radio show with Jim Zabel on WHO in Des Moines, on the show they go into great detail previewing the Iowa Hawkeyes and Iowa State Cyclones opponents every week. I would say he has a very good view of the big ten, and to admit that the conference is weak took some guts, because Im sure he will get an ear full Sunday night.

  52. Let me be clear at the outset that I didn’t really care which team got the championship game berth….Walden’s argument only holds water because the SEC has a championship game and the Big 10 doesn’t. If Ohio State had beaten, say, Wisconsin in a conference championship game the same day that Florida won the SEC, would he still have leapfrogged a one-loss team over an undefeated one?

    There have been years when the SEC ADs claimed that the conference championship game weakened the possibility of an SEC team making the BCS championship game (one extra chance to lose), but it seems to me that it gave Florida the extra push this season.

  53. That is true, but only because USC–a team from another conference without a championship game–lost. In fact, it took that defeat to keep the conferences with less tested teams from playing for the national title….

  54. I respect Walden’s assessment of Florida and obviously appreciate it, but I still think OSU is the #1, hands-down. If you’re the only one to go undefeated in a major conference, you’re #1 I think. Florida should have beaten Auburn, and they didn’t. Our kicking game, penalties, and spontaneous collapses by our offense are the reasons we aren’t the best team in the nation… right now.

  55. Signing Sturtze is a disappointing move that brings to mind the last few years of failed reclamation projects and bad bullpens. Fortunately, barring injuries he shouldn’t find his way onto the major league roster.

  56. Well, the only-major-conference-team-to-go-undefeated point is a good one, but the Auburn thing…I dunno.

    I mean, Ohio State could have gone through the same problems, only they had the benefit of playing Illinois when it happened instead of Auburn or LSU or Tennessee. The fact that Florida’s mistakes hurt them is at least in part due to the fact that their opponents were good enough to make the mistakes hurt them.

  57. Agreed OSU has to be #1 and it would not surprise me if they beat Florida. Yet, it has to be said that OSU had to play one less game and if the last few weeks of the season demonstrate anything, it is that an additional game can expose weaknesses.

  58. I don’t think that it hurts to sign Sturtze; lets hope that the reclamation project works as well as it did in the case of Antonio Alfonseca in 2004.

  59. I know this is a free-flowing thread and all, but would it be possible to keep the football discussions in one place and the Braves discussions in another? It’s tough for a Braves fan who cares nothing about football to seperate what’s being discussed here. Hope that’s not rude…

  60. Avery,

    Tanyonero or Tanyonerooo or anything like it, isn’t funny, sorry but that’s the truth.

  61. The Pac 10 got 6 bowl teams, not 8. I wouldn’t start touching myself over “bowl-eligible.”

    That’s politics not team quality. The SEC has better connections. Which is fine, it’s their games they can invite who they want. I’m not going to lose any sleep about Washington State not going bowling. Alabama of course screams “bowl team”.

    As for the Stoops-manipulation, I had never read that, so I probably can’t pass it off as fact. It would seem like the logical thing to do, and I don’t have the BCS rankings for 2004, but I doubt that it “wasn’t close. You don’t run the table in a major conference, no matter what kind of year (up or down), and not even get close to making it to the title game.

    Auburn had two things working against them that year. The first was of course their schedule, which was a punch line at the time and has become an object lesson for how to schedule yourself out of the championship game. The second was that they were coming off a down year which means they started way down in the polls compared to USC and Oklahoma. Since neither the Trojans nor Sooners lost that year, it was pretty impossible for Auburn to make up that gap.

    I’m finally past the point of “annoyed” and well on into “amused” at Robert’s insistance on making the Pac 10 out to be comparable to the SEC.

    Congrats, you’ve reached the point that the rest of the country has gotten to when they hear Meyer, Tuberville and the rest say how the SEC is sooooooo tough. Insert eye roll.

    To be clear, Florida got the nod due to the no-rematch factor, not as some sort of referendum on the SEC. Again I feel compelled to state that the SEC is a fine conference, always top notch, just not head and shoulders above everyone else as you would have us believe. I think OSU-Florida was the right call here, no one wants a rematch.

  62. Sooooo…How bout them Winter Meetings?

    I get the feeling that the majority of us are bored by the Braves off-season and looking for other diversions.

  63. There is zero news on Braves baseball right now, just speculation.

    On WFAN today, Sweeny Murti (the Yanks beat reporter for the station) was on the air from the Winter Meetings. Nothing big on Day 1. He regurgitated more Zito-to-Mets talk, re-enforced the no-A-Rod-trade line, & dabbled with more Manny trade talk.

    Boston has talked with the Dodgers & the Padres. According to Murti, the Dodgers have a deep farm & may give up some of that (didn’t get any names) for Manny. The Pads, he says, may deal for Manny & then spin him off to Texas or Anaheim. Again, no specifics.

    BTW, for all you football fans, just heard that the Rutgers coach is staying, turning down any Miami offers

  64. Hey everybody, sorry i’ve been gone so much. Seems like i’ve been going on business trips about 3 times a month now. It’s getting crazier.

    Agreed, baseball offseason is boring so far. I’m not sure if JS went after Sturtze thinking he could help this team or if he just wanted to keep Braves fans awake. This isn’t really out of the ordinary though. The Braves usually don’t do anything blockbuster during the offseason (yes, i know, there are some exceptions [Sheffield and Hudson]).

    I’d say the biggest thing that happens this offseason is the Giles for ________________ trade that is inevitable. I challenge JS to prove me wrong.

  65. Sorry Ronnie….I guess you tried.

    I doubt, however, that JS believes Tanyon Sturtze is an impactful signing. I’m sure he HOPES that’s the case, just like he did with Mondesi/Jordan. It’s more likely this was another arm to bring in some depth in March. This team isn’t budgeted down to the dollar, so I have to believe that this is a minor risk worth taking.

    Personally, I’d be much more upset if we were all fed some BS about this guy being a missing piece. Something similar to: “Our #1 priority this winter was to strengthen our staff, and Sturtze has been successful in the past, so we feel like we’re better off now than we were at the end of the season.” That’s completely insulting because the guy is dogsh*t and everyone knows it.

    Bottom line: It’s disappointing now, but let’s see what else happens—especially this week.

  66. we shouldnt have wasted $750K on Tanyon. That could end up costing us around 1.4mil if he makes enough appearances. I’ll take Reitsma back over this guy for that $$$

  67. The Stopes Auburn thing is bogus, With 61 voters and 25-24-23 points for first second & third the max votes for the first 3 places is 4392.
    1. Southern California (35 1/3) 12-0 1,490 1
    2. Oklahoma (16 1/3) 12-0 1,459 2
    3. Auburn (9 1/3) 12-0 1,435 3
    The first 3 teams got 1484, which leaves only a 8 point undervote.

  68. this isn’t what we were waiting for. really disappointing. we’ll all soon forget about it if there are better moves to come.. but if Tanyon Sturtze is what we come out of the Winter Meetings with, we might as well call the Mets the 2007 NL East Champs.

    So I hope things get better. At the very least, Giles needs to go.

    New rumor: “The Pirates have asked the Braves about Adam LaRoche, but it’s unlikely that they’d part with Mike Gonzalez for the first baseman.”

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